So regarding both these points, Like i said in my statement it is dependent on the situation. Obviously I get where both of you two are coming from, in regards too the fact that, Yes the spy will be getting shot at, and Yes spy checking is a thing. But in a Pub, a spy will most likely win almost all of its interactions with the opponent if the spy has some level of skill, if we are going straight to MGE, which i didn't intend, I meant in a casual standpoint, the spy will win most interactions, and I don't have doubt in my mind about that statement, because:
First from a casual standpoint, (Even competitive), spies will win most there interactions (There first ones), because they have so much going for them, but if a team has even a drop of communication then it easy for Spy to be the most underwhelming class in the game.
I would like you both too understand this is:
1 my opinion, so it may not be entirely factual, and you can dispute this opinion.
2. although it is opinion it is based on interactions I have had with spy players.
My final point against what you two have mentioned is like I said:
I am not looking at this from an MGE standpoint, I am looking at it from a casual standpoint, with actual maps and rotations etc.
In MGE the spy is the weakest (and yes that includes medic). I don't think you can disagree that the spy is the weakest in MGE 1v1's but in casuals a spy has the potential too pub stomp, but there are too many factors for this too frequently accure, but this being said a spies interaction with a player for the first time (Unless it is a pyro constantly spy checking), will win almost all 1v1 interactions the first time through.
All classes are there for a reason and have their strengths and weaknesses so for this argument specifically, these choices are all opinionated.
Best Class: Soldier is probably one of the best classes in TF2 solely because having a good soldier on the team can be a little infuriating to play against if you know how to deal with him. Also, his weapon arsenal is pretty solid when it comes to choosing anything especially his secondary weapons. Plus, add rocket jumping into the play and you probably have one of the best characters in TF2 when trying to move around the map.
Worst Class: Heavy is probably one of the worst classes in TF2 and that is because of a couple of reasons. One, his movement speed is ultimately a huge handicap making it impossible to move around but, can be fixed if there is a good engineer that can keep his teleporter up or you have the eviction notice or the GORU (Gloves of Running Urgently). Two, his weapons that he has in his arsenal are really bad besides a couple of weapons which is the Tomislav, Fists of Steel, Sandvich, The Second Banana, Stock, and the Brass Beast (solely for MVM because of damage buff). And three, he has the most weaknesses in terms of how fast classes can kill him like spies, snipers, soldiers, demoman, etc.
Best Class: Soldier is probably one of the best classes in TF2 solely because having a good soldier on the team can be a little infuriating to play against if you know how to deal with him. Also, his weapon arsenal is pretty solid when it comes to choosing anything especially his secondary weapons. Plus, add rocket jumping into the play and you probably have one of the best characters in TF2 when trying to move around the map.
Worst Class: Heavy is probably one of the worst classes in TF2 and that is because of a couple of reasons. One, his movement speed is ultimately a huge handicap making it impossible to move around but, can be fixed if there is a good engineer that can keep his teleporter up or you have the eviction notice or the GORU (Gloves of Running Urgently). Two, his weapons that he has in his arsenal are really bad besides a couple of weapons which is the Tomislav, Fists of Steel, Sandvich, The Second Banana, Stock, and the Brass Beast (solely for MVM because of damage buff). And three, he has the most weaknesses in terms of how fast classes can kill him like spies, snipers, soldiers, demoman, etc.
